1. Joe should not have allowed his wife to scold him and give him orders, or to beat Pip with a stick.
2. Miss Havisham was right to use Estella to take her revenge on men.
3. Pip needed Herbert Pocket more than Herbert needed Pip.
4. If Magwitch's marriage had not broken up, he would not have become a criminal.
5. No matter how bad was Estella at Pip, he was right to love her.
6. Mr Jaggers shouldn't have taken Estella away from her mother.
the first. yes, joe should have put his point of views when he engaged whit her so he should have been the person who hold the reins of the house, instead of being as a mandarina.
ReplyDeleteHahahaha... you are right!
DeleteThis is a very funny comment, but I don´t completely agree with it. A spouses relation is based in being unselfish, open up and work out in problems that can appear. It is a part and part relation in which both are supossed to have the oportunity to express their expectations and feelings, so no one shoud have more power than the other in the way of carrying the marriage.
DeleteI disagree with the second option. Because even though Miss Havisham adopted Estella and brought her up, Miss Havisham doesn't have to use her for that purpose. What made her fiance was horrible and any woman would feel bad, but that does not mean all men are like him and not have to pay the fault innocent people (Pip). Miss Havisham is being selfish with Estela, she's holding a grudge in your heart to others men and shewas blinded his revenge no matter who you hurt and damage your future. R &W 2
ReplyDeleteIt is true, Andrea. We are not all the same. There are good men, too.
DeleteI disagree with the third option because I think that both needed since Helbert without Pip help would not have found a job and Pip without Helbert help would not have rescued from Orlick.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with the second choice because Estella did not have offense for Miss Havisham past. Moreover If Miss Havisham wanted a reveng , she should have found to the person who hurt her.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with the second statement. It's incorrect that Miss Havisham have used Estella to take her revenge because not all the men are like her fiance, for example Pip, he was a good man and he really love Estella. If she wanted revenge she has to found another way to do it.
ReplyDeleteAdriana Sobrevilla
Exactly! At the end, innocent people suffered.
DeleteI disagree with the four statement because Magwitch never be a criminal, his bad influence was his ' 'friend' Compeyson, so when Compeyson lay at the trial, Magwitch had a lot of regret, because of that Magwitch seems to be a criminal but he is a good person, he helps Pip with his education, lets him to be a gentleman. In my opinion, Magwitch is a person whom bad things had happened, but at the bottom of his heart he still love his wife, daughter.
ReplyDeleteEmperatriz Suárez
This is my fourth post
Aellen Dominguez
DeleteI completely agree with you, Magwitch only had a bad influences But he always loved his wife and daughter.
Even though of all bad things that Magwitch had lived, he helped Pip to become a gentlemen and this show the excellent person that was Magwitch.
Anyway, we are responsible for what we do... noone else!
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I agree with the last statement because the family always must be together no matter what. I understand that Molly had a lot of problems with Magwitch at the jail but she should be with Estella. Mothers are irreplaceable. Miss Havisham was a bad influence to Estella, she taught Estella about taking revenge just for her bad engagement, be rude, and wicked. In my opinion, Jaggers ought to help Molly and Estella when Magwitch was a the jail. So when Magwitch was out , the whole family will be together again.
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My last post
But you should remember that Molly committed a crime, too. She murdered a woman!
DeleteI agree with the statement that said If Magwitch's marriage had not broken up, he would not have become a criminal. Because he was a good man an if he would he the support to his own family. He probably would work harder and have a Beautiful family.
ReplyDeleteEvelin Martillo
It is not a valid excuse.
DeleteI'm disagree too with this statement, broking up with our partners don't allow us to start making trouble of the society. Even though, if we are cheated or something worst, that don't give us the rights to revenge with the others. Those bad habits of Magwitch are so wrong, with his help Compeyson caused much pain to Mrs. Havinsham, and she did it too Estella, who was the real daughter of Abel. His crimes were paid in a fair manner I think. Everything you do in life is paid, you don't know when, where or how, but is paid. So Abel's rupture wasn't an excuse to starting to be a criminal, so he finally obtained what he really deserve to.
DeleteI disagree with de second statement beacuse Miss Havisham did not have to use Estella, to take the revenge beacuse Estella was other person she did not have to paid when the responsabily was only to Compeyson.
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My last post
I agree with the first option because I do not think violence is the best option to solve the problems and also is important in a family or loving relationship predominates respect, for this reason I do not agree with the fact that Joy let his wife to scold him and also let her to hit Pip with a stick. Nathaly Molina
ReplyDeleteI disagree with the second option because even though Miss Havisham had a heartbreak should not take revenge on innocent people as Estella and Pip and the decision of to take revenge on men is too much drastic. I think that she just let go in her own pain and she do not think in the pain that she could cause with her revenge. Nathaly Molina =)
ReplyDeleteI agree with the sixth statement. For me, Estella should not stay with her family any longer but Mr. Jaggers shouldn't have took her to Miss Havisham's house. I think that Molly would have been a good mother but his father and mother situation would have deeply affected Estella's childhood.
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ReplyDeleteMy opinion develops about third statement. I believe that favors are paid with more favors. Pip had helped Herbert make an improvement on his life, getting a job and making him partner there (First Pip and then Miss Havisham). Likewise, Herbert received Peter into his apartment when Pip had recently arrived in London, also Herbert helped him to hide Magwitch from the police. So I disagree with this statement.
Mr. Hardwell
They helped each other.
Deletein my view I disagree with the number 5... he was wrong to love her so much even Estella treated and hurted him badly He still loved her I think that is masochism and because of that He felt ashamed of himself and over all of joe the only one who always was there to help him when it was necessary.... :)
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ALEX MITE
ReplyDeleteI'm in disagreement with the second statement. Maybe Miss Havisham had the right to educate Estella as she wanted, but for that bad experience Miss Havisham had, she should not have converted Estella as cold as an iceberg. There are good men, Pip was one and indeed they knew it with the pass of the time.
Mr. Deorro
Aellen Dominguez
ReplyDeleteI disagree with the second statement because Estella is a new person with different feelings that’s why Estella didn’t have the responsibility about what had happened to Miss Havisham but Miss Havisham taught how to be a cold and heartbreaker person.
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DeleteAellen Dominguez
I disagree with the second statement because althought Miss Havisham suffered a lot for a man she must not influence in Estella´s feelings. Estella didn´t love because she didn´t want to, and for this reason Pip couldn´t have Estella´s love althought he loved her sincerely. They couldn´t feel love experience because of Miss Havisham. I think if people suffer, they should do something good to feel better, but they must not to affect the other people to get better.
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I disagree with the fifth statement because a person must love someone who also loves him or her. If a person gives bad treatements who someone who loves her or him, the lover must forget that person and try to be with the correct person who is someone who is fall in love with him or her.
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My fifth comment, Mariella Velasco.
DeleteI disagree with the second statement. Miss havisham didn't have to use the people around her in revenge against the men. The innocent estella and the poor pip suffered with that because miss havisham manipulated them and enyoyed carring out her plan. Miss havisham must have forgotten that man's deceit, continue her life, live a happy life with estella and overcome the past. So estella wouldn't have grown with a cold heart. Estella would have been a kind and lovely girl. So She could have married with pip. Geisha Ordonez
ReplyDeleteI want to comment about the wrong behavior of Pip's sister, I don't know what really happen to Joe, how he could be silent upon his wife scolding... It's difficult for me to understand this kind of treatment between a couple, and how he is so silly I think. Nowadays we called that kind of man with brown nose like "mandarina". I think it's unbelievable and unacceptable that a man can be sort for a woman. It's a shamed and so embarrassing. In my opinion this kind of men have to be punish by a order of the law or anything like that. We have to avoid those kind of women which want to sort the mankind.
ReplyDeleteI also want to talk about Mrs. Havinsham revenge through Estella. I don't think that she was right. First, we know that she was cheated in the past just in her wedding day. That have to hurt a lot and perhaps be a girl, the pain probably hurt more than in a man, beause some girls dream about their wedding day comparing it with a fairy tale. But that action don't give her the attribution to revenge with all mankind. Last but not least, we have to think that she was doing a big mistake with Estella future's feeling, making her a cold woman. That was a unfair deal that Estella didn't deserve. By Mrs. Havinshan soul of revenge make Estella hurt Pip in a deeply way. Therefore I really think that she was more than wrong.
ReplyDeleteI disagree totally with the second statement, Nobody can handle someone s life mainly in bad things like a revenge. I guess Miss Havisham loves Estela so She wants the best for her daugther. When we love someone, We want the best for him/her. by Alfonso Toscano7
ReplyDeleteI disagree with the third statement because Pip and Herbert helped each other, Herbert gave Pip a home in London and also helped him when Orlick had kidnapped him, on the other hand, Herbert Pip helped to get a job and so he can marry Clara.
ReplyDeleteAdriana Sobrevilla (My last comment)
the fifh, Personally I do not believe in love at first sight. I think there is love when we have a relationship First.On the other hand I guess Estela was unhappy in her childhood and the Pid's visiting was a blessing . I was always sure that Estela's heart was Pid. and he loved Estela from the first day he saw her. Alfonso Toscano7
ReplyDeleteI disagree with the second statement “Miss Havisham was right to use Estella to take her revenge on men”, because Estella had no to blame for what had happened to Miss Havisham when she was getting married therefore Miss Havisham did very badly in converting Estella in a proud person, full of hatred towards men and not allowed her to be with the man she really loved "Pip".
ReplyDeleteEvelyn Lalangui.
I disagree with the second statement because Miss Havisham should raise otherwise. estella deserved to be happy with someone.if Miss Havisham was deceived the day she was to get marry and when she wants to take revenge on men, she is also hurting estella as she not to blame for her misfortune.if Miss Havisham could not be happy, right of Miss Havisham was to make estella can be happy and she can get marry with a good man.
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I disagree with the last option, because I think that should separate a child from his mother or father. Not in all cases, but sometimes it is necessary because there are parents who do not deserve to be called so. But in reality it, sometimes it's best to remove the children of parents who can't be parents, not everyone in this world we are fit to be parents (Molly).And if Molly had really wanted her daughter wouldn't have allowed him to take off his daughter to recover or would treat any form or search it in the future but she did nothing.
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I desagree with the five option. Because I think that he was masochistic, Pip knows estella can't be with him because she was brought up to break men's hearts by Miss Havisham.Eventhough Pip love Estella until the end. He don't given an opportunity to be happy with another girl, when you wanted to do it was too late and stayed only resigned to being single friend of the woman he love. As Pip allowed him to be treated badly by estella she continues to do so with pleasure.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with the fourth statemente because Magwitch was already a criminal while he was married. I think that he has always been a criminal and the situation with Compeyson did not changed anything. That does not change the fact that he was a great man.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the fifth statement, because nobody can decide on the feelings of the people. Also Pip really loved Estella despite her behavior, because He felt that Estella was a good person and that she loved him, but it was a shame that the pride of Estella not allowed to be happy with Pip.
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I disagree with second statement because I don´t like that the people use other people from revenge of something in this case Miss Havisham use Estella to revenge of men but Miss Havisham forgot that Estella hadn´t had nothing to do when the man had cheated her. So Pip really loved to Estella but Estella was cold with Pip because Miss Havisham had taught her not to have feelings
ReplyDeleteI disagree with second statement because estella deserved to have a different life of miss havisham. but estella had a life hateful towards men because miss havisham taught him take revenge on men and miss havisham shouldn't have done it because estella would been very happy with pip. I think that not all men are equal and it's not good to use people for take revenge at someone or something.
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I disagree with sixth statement because estella should have been with her mother because she would have had a life full of love and happiness with person who loved. Maybe Molly thought that her daughter would have a better future with another person, it was not her, therefore molly allowed that Mr. Jaggers separated her daughter. I think that it's inhuman remove a child from their parents because the child deserves to have a home with parents's love.
ReplyDeleteKatherine Arias :)
I desagree with the second statement because Estella deserved to be happy with someone. If Miss Havisham was deceived the day she was to get marry that is not a excuse for Estela can not be happy with Pip and do not have grudge with all men and not have revenge
ReplyDeleteI agree with the first statement, Joe's wife should have respected him and Pip.
ReplyDeleteI think Joe should not have allowed it and he had to talked with his wife about her behavior. Aggression is not the best option to make rigth things.
DEYALIT COELLO.
I disagree with the second statement, Miss Havisham was wrong she should not have used Estella.
ReplyDeleteEstella should not have obeyed Miss Havisham she was exmpet to fall in love and chose the man that she wanted. Miss Havisham had to forget about revenge.
DEYALIT COELLO
I am agree with the fifth statement because if you love someone, with every cell in your body, you will do whatever it takes to win her heart, even if she is bad with you, in my opinion I love bad girls, that makes you kneel, and beg for her, because doing that she knows if you worth it, but not all of the girls, I like that, remember reader you must open your heart but not all.
ReplyDeleteSamuel Lam M.
Hahahaha... Thanks for the advice!
DeleteI disagree with the fifth statement, Pip was wrong to love her. I think Pip was a good boy and he should not have allowed Estella being so bad with him. Pip should have fell in love with the girl who really loved him and was good with him.
ReplyDeleteDEYALIT COELLO
I am completely disagree with the second statement, I think that miss Havisham has not the right to manipulate someone to make feel like trash another person, that’s cruel, if you have a problem, you solve it by yourself, suffering for a man, crying and thinking the perfect revenge to him, that is a complete waste of time, miss Havisham is a witch, but Pip is a fool because knowing that Estella was manipulated by miss Havisham to make him suffer, he was still breathing down her neck.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this statement "No matter how bad was Estella at Pip, he was right to love her" because when the real love exist doesn't matter nothing. Pip had have a real love to Estella and he had to understand her.
ReplyDeleteWhen we are with someone, we have to avoid fights, be patient to understand the other person also support him, because he/she have problem.
In conclusion, in a relationship is common when the persons fight but they have to arrange the problems that they have for not damage a realtionship that exist with both.
Dayana Carrasco
Reading&Writting1
I disagree. You've got to love yourself first!
DeleteI desagree with "No matter how bad was Estella at Pip, he was right to love her" because Pip must have forgotten Estella. She was very rude and cold with pip and in spite of bad behaviour of estella pip continued in love with her. I think that in the history pip must have found another girl, a good girl who love him, help him and marry with pip. Finally, both pip and the another girl could have lived happy and maybe with their children.
ReplyDeleteGeisha Ordoñez
I´m completely disagree with the statement "No matter how bad was Estella at Pip, he was right to love her", It´s like Pip didnt have self esteem, if i were Pip, i wouldnt beg for love to Estella even wait for her too many time as he did... Estella realized too late about her feeling towards Pip, they could have spent those time together and not being unhappy with the wrong people. She should have showed more interest in him but at least they stayed together!
ReplyDeleteGabrielaMonge
i disagree the statement "Pip needed Herbert Pocket more than Herbert needed Pip", i think, they were an example of true friendship, both helped and supported each other so they needed themselves in the same way... they lived interesting experiences together
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I completly disagree with Mss. Havisham behaviour about forcing Estella to use Pip for a revenge, that wont heal her pain ..it just would cause her feel worse about what happened with her fiance. This cause a really bad attitude in Estella who never accept Pip`s love and he suffer all the time because of her . Maria Belen Rodriguez
ReplyDeleteShould be mutual respect in a relationship. Personally I think No one should not shout .When you need to talk somobody Always RESPECT . Alfonso Toscano 7
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