Do you agree or disagree with these statements? Choose one item and discuss your answers.
1. Joe should not have allowed his wife to scold him and give him orders, or to beat Pip with a stick.
2. Miss Havisham was right to use Estella to take her revenge on men.
3. Pip needed Herbert Pocket more than Herbert needed Pip.
4. If Magwitch's marriage had not broken up, he would not have become a criminal.
5. No matter how bad was Estella at Pip, he was right to love her.
6. Mr Jaggers shouldn't have taken Estella away from her mother.
I think whether mr jaggers estella should take that handing the millionaire ms Havisham gave him a better future feeding studies gave him, and when he died he left his fortune to
ReplyDeleteEstella did a lot of damage to pip, but he did not care for it the same way still loved, loved her so much that I wait too long in the end could finally go get it and ended up together holding hand, but I think I should not love her because I treat him like dirt.
ReplyDeletethink they were both very good friends that they both needed each other but in the novel pip gave much more support herbert, that Pip invested in a company just to give work to herbert, the two were a nice addition to help
ReplyDeleteMiss Havisham was not entitled, because the only thing she wins with her revenge was hurt pip and that estella has had an abusive husband.
ReplyDeleteShe not realized that not all men are equal.
Cynthia Rodriguez
I agree with Cynthia´s comment
DeleteNot all men are equal,Miss Havisham transformed Estella in a girl without feelings, she only wanted a man with high social and economic position . She didn't want a man who loved her.
MILDRED ORTEGA MORALES (:
I agree with them , the miss havishm shouldnt raise to Estella with this revenga she had:nt fault however Estella to end could get her feeling.
DeleteI agree. Men are not the same. It is true that Estella got better feelings, but it was kind of late.
DeleteThis is a good topic for discuss. Estella not to have a future worthy of a good life. Estella began to destroy the life of Pip because he was as a person of the world. Estella started his life very bad to offend the other young people but could never end up with someone and these circumstances estella did much damage to your life and to others who were all arround your life.
ReplyDeleteName: José David Zapata Materon Course: Reading and Writting 2
'No matter how bad was Estella at Pip, he was right to love her'
ReplyDeleteEstella didn't love Pip , but when she returned to see him after several years everything changed.
Pip was in love her for many years, but estella prefered someone with more money than someone who loved her .Estella always rejected him and treated him badly
AND IN MANY CASE DON'T MATTER IF THE GIRL DOESN'T LOVE THE CORRECT MAN.LIFE SOON WILL SHOW HER WHO IS HER TRUE DESTINY
MILDRED ORTEGA MORALES (:
¨¨No matter how bad was Estella at Pip, he was right to love her.¨¨
ReplyDeleteI dont think that Pip should have love to Estella even with bad behavior. becouse she very cruel with him and he dont deserved this. he despite of all her did , he follow lover her.. if he¨d proposed forget , he dont suffered for unrequited love and he had choose to Biddy and he had done a good election.
I agree with you. You shouldn't love someone who is bad at you.
DeleteI disagree with the second statement, I think that the revenge isn’t a good idea and personally I didn’t like that Miss Havisham revenged with someone didn’t do anything to her. In my opinion that’s immature. She should have forgiven that and have begun a new life, of course it have been difficult but not impossible.
ReplyDeleteAbigail Vèlez
Very immature!
DeleteI agree with the first statement, Joe’s wife shouldn’t have done that so she could have talked stillness, calmness without cry out or scold them. I believe in this way Pip haven’t felt bad although he loved her in despite of that.
ReplyDeleteAbigail Vèlez
Joe should not have allowed his wife to scold him and give him orders, or to beat Pip with a stick.
ReplyDeleteI think tha always should have a way or shape to correct a chlid but all with love, the position of joe was good he understiid to pip were friends but joe couldt get in the education of Pip becouse his wife was charge, if she had had a son with his wife , there was his duty to take decision about him
It is true.
DeleteI disagree with this: Miss Havisham was right to use Estella to take her revenge on men, because she damage Estella´s heart with this idea as a result Estella is a proud and mean girl. Miss Havisham create a little monster without good feelings to others and herself, and doing Estella´s life miserable and full of sadness.
ReplyDeleteExactly! She wanted to destroy men, but she ended up destroying Estella's life, too.
Deletei am agree with you andrea.. miss havisham wanted to take revenge by estela but the cause of this was that estella had a very miserable life, with a husband that she did not love.. she could be very happy with pip, a person who had great expectations and the most important thing.. he loved her..!
Deletesara fernandez.. jj I forgot the name
DeleteI agree with you guys 'cause Miss Havisham was just filling with hate and resentment Estella's heart towards men and when she grew her life was miserable, married with a man who didn't love her.
Delete2.-Miss Havisham was right to use Estella to take her revenge on men.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with this statement, Miss Havisham shouldn't take Estella to revenge of her heartbreak because, Estella was still a child and this did that her innocent heart was filled of resentment and hatred towards men. Estella grew up being a bad and vindictive lady and all these problems made change her and it made that her heart doesn't feel love for nobody.
Malena Echeverria.
5.-No matter how bad was Estella at Pip, he was right to love her.
ReplyDeleteI believe that Pip was a respectful boy despite being rejected by Estella but I consider that he should have given himself the opportunity of perform his loving life with other girl because of Estella only wanted to break his heart.
"ALL AT SOME POINT IN LIFE WE GOT TIRED OF WAITING"
MALENA Echeverria
4. If Magwitch's marriage had not broken up, he would not have become a criminal.
ReplyDeleteI desagree, Abel magwitch grew up thieving in order to survive and he was already a criminal. When he met Compeyson, he works in order to survive and agrees to working for Compeyson .If Magwitch's marriage had or not broken up, he would not have affected when he was a criminal and only If Magwitch's life had changed, he would not have become a criminal.
I disagree with miss havisham, because nobody is responsible what she had felt obviously was impossible to revenge him with other men through the estella, I guess that it was in the past the and the people were cruel anyway I have not been in one situation like her.
ReplyDeleteBORIS ORTIZ E.
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Delete"*Joe should not have allowed his wife to scold him and give him orders, or to beat Pip with a stick.*"
ReplyDeleteThis statement is accurate for me; because, if Joe shouldn't have allowed that she treat him like she used to treat him, he could find someone else like Biddy to be his wife and get divorced of Pip's sister. Whit this action Pip could have lived in a place where he would grow with the love of parents, and problably he never would met Estella .
I agree. Joe shouldn't have allowed Mrs Joe's hit him, even if he felt pity for her, and more obvious if he really cared about pip, he shouldn't have allowed his wife hit pip as usual. Actually he could have get divorced and take pip with him and could have continued to work as blacksmith's , and they two could have had a better life, and pip never would have felt miserable.
DeleteYes guys, but remember that Pip was Joe's wife's brother, so even if they had divorced, Pip would have stayed with his sister. He might have been more miserable without his friend Joe.
DeletePip needed Herbert Pocket more than Herbert needed Pip.
ReplyDeletepip needed more herbert because he need his advises and he found a amazing friendship in herbert.
but in fact they needed each other because pip also hep herbert to find job.
Cynthia Rodriguez
In my opinion, Pip was more helpful than Herbert.
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